On Tuesday 08 June 2004 10:03, Michael Campbell wrote: > > Non-college grads, though, never got hired unless they could prove their > > experience. > > Sounds like the fault of those hiring. I think my last truly bad experience regarding people with CS degrees goes back to early/mid-90's. Also, I've been mostly solo since about 1999, so things could be a lot different in real "companies" these days. Sean O'Dell