Jim Freeze wrote: > On Saturday, 15 May 2004 at 10:38:51 +0900, Ryan Paul wrote: > >>On Sat, 15 May 2004 05:58:43 +0900, Sascha Ebach wrote: >> >>If ruby is adapted to fit the needs of >>big business, it will lose it's flexibility, and it will be much less fun >>to use! > > > It depends on how you and businesses look at the situation. In my > opinion, Ruby is ideal for business and will give any company > that adopts it a competitive edge. (To be competitive, you need > to use a tool that is better than your competitor's.) I believe this is the crux of any Ruby advocacy effort. I'm not interested in specing out corporate needs and then seeing how to change Ruby. I want to have something other than my own anecdotal experience and gut feeling to convince others that Ruby, as is, can meet their needs. James