Curt Hibbs wrote: > The MinGW environment could be distributed with the One-Click Ruby > Installer > (which is a plus), but I believe the MS compiler would need to be > separately > downloaded and installed by the end user. > > Curt > Ah, but if the "environment" is really 77 MB, that would hurt ... a lot ... I've been thinking about the way R does it. Briefly, their main development platform is Linux, and their main method of package distribution is source. On Linux, a package with just R source is simply downloaded from a repository, unpacked, checked, and then is executable. Packages containing C, C++ or Fortran source are compiled at install time. R itself is often built from source, although the common binary formats (RPM, Debian, MacOS X) are supported. Building R from source on a Linux system requires C/C++, Fortran, etc. It's a straightforward "configure; make; make check; make install" sequence. On Windows, however, R is distributed as a one-click installer. And packages are usually pre-compiled and installed from ZIP archives downloaded from the repository. If you want to build packages from source, you have to install an exact set of tools and follow an exact procedure. Someone on the R project team does this for most of the packages! And if you want to build R itself, you have to install even more tools and follow even more exact procedures. Again, someone on the R project team does this every time there's a release, and in addition *daily* for patched and development releases!! Incidentally, like R and most of the library packages, the tools to build R and the packages on Windows are all open source or at least freely downloadable. I believe the only Microsoft dependency is to compile help files, though I could be wrong about that. My question is, "Would such a model (mostly open source, but everything precompiled by someone for Windows,)" work for Ruby, Ruby's gems and other packages, and Ruby's Windows users? I've lived with it for years in the R world. It's not my preferred _modus operandi_ but it was tough enough to get an open source tool like R "approved" in a corporate Windows IT shop. The fact that R is a far better piece of software than commercial packages with licenses costing multiple thousands of US dollars didn't matter. These people only see the risks. So ... is someone going to step up to the plate and pre-compile gems that require C or some other language? This model seems to work for R; would it work for Ruby? Rails?