Issue #13560 has been updated by shevegen (Robert A. Heiler). What would perhaps be nice would be to have a way to initialize these to nil, upon attr_* definition, but I guess that would require another name - it would probably be bad in general to change the attr_* default behaviour at this point. > In current state, where attr_* methods return nil, it makes class definition more > prone to errors, especially at code refactoring I do not know whether it makes anything more prone to errors. The interesting thing is that I myself only rarely use the attr_* methods these days. One reason is that I also want reader methods that have a trailing '?' (I love them!), but I do not want to carry my custom modifications into my gem-projects (I use them locally, but I don't want to require of people to go "off default ruby" - it is much better to stay with the idioms of main ruby in my opinion). But another reason also is that I have more control over methods (readers, setters, getters, accessors) with a custom definition. It means that I have to write more code though, so sometimes I'd wish that there would be more ways to automatically define such accessor methods. The current attr_* ways are fine but I believe that active* (activerecord?) uses some custom modifications too, so I may assume that there could be a need for some more of these. I digress though, feel free to disregard my comment. :D ---------------------------------------- Feature #13560: Module#attr_ methods return reasonable values https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/13560#change-64809 * Author: dunrix (Damon Unrix) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal * Assignee: * Target version: ---------------------------------------- Hi, I'm suggesting all `Module#attr_` [methods](http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.1/Module.html#method-i-attr_accessor) should return array of generated method names, instead of useless `nil`. Make them more concise across `Module` API, corresponding to logic of [`Module#define_method`](http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.1/Module.html#method-i-define_method), allow pass as arguments to visibility `public/protected/private` methods etc. Concerned method names: * attr_accessor * attr_reader * attr_writer Demonstration example: ``` class LookBeforeYouLeap api_meths = attr_accessor :ruby_api # api_meths == [:ruby_api, :ruby_api=] private *api_meths # Or you can pass generated methods directly # protected *attr_reader(:ruby_papi, :ruby_cext) end # Assignment to temporary local variable `api_meths` does not pollute class'es # namespace. ``` I'm aware *attr_** methods also create corresponding instance variables, but `Module` API has no use for them, unlike created accessor methods. In current state, where *attr_** methods return `nil`, it makes class definition more prone to errors, especially at code refactoring: ``` class ExistingWay attr_accessor :ruby_api # result is nil # Need write method names manually private :ruby_api, :rby_api= # throws NameError exception when executed # Any change of generated accessor methods names require manual rewrite # at each visibility method call also. end ``` -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-core-request / ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe> <http://lists.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/ruby-core>