On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 02:16:50AM +0900, Eivind Eklund wrote: > These kinds of layout policies are part and parcel of what operating > systems do. Saying that it is OK for languages to say "Fuck you" > to operating system policies means that there is a lot of things > that will become overall much worse for the users (some examples > above.) Oops, that was language that I felt the need to write in the moment and planned to edit out before sending. My apologies. Eivind.