Jim Weirich wrote: >>>On 21-Sep-05, at 7:17 PM, why the lucky stiff wrote: > > >>>>So, what needs to happen with RubyGems to neutralize everybody? > > [... items 1..4 elided ...] > > Chad Fowler said: > > >>>Thanks, Why. I'd like to add (at least, for now): > > [... items 5..7 elided ...] > > This is how I would sort the Why/Chad todo list: > > * Things that are Urgent and need done immediately: > > (5) Incremental Source Index downloads. > > I understand that RubyForge is currently having issues with the > large monolithic index file, which makes this a high priority > item. I meant to deal with this earlier, but got sidetracked with > life. I had, at some point or another, envisioned a transparent distributed system where a given server not only delegates out downloads but the very indexing itself to any other servers it knows about. I can not recall if I wrote any code for this but it is quite doubtable as I usually would do no such thing :) > * Things that should be done for a 1.8.4 merge: > > (1) Data dir support. > > This is really more of an issue with the Ruby environment rather > than with RubyGems itself. The reason it tends to come up in > RubyGems context is that it is gems that people want to package. > > I have some vague suggestions in this area, but the discussion > should probably move to a different thread. I'll post more when I > organize some thoughts. > > (3) Semantics of require and needing to require rubygems. > > In the absence of explicit require_gem commands, RubyGems only > interfers with the require process when a file cannot be found by > the normal require process. In order to do this, it currently > aliases Kernel.require and traps load errors. > > I would like to see two things happen as RubyGems becomes part of > the core. (1) a general hook for require LoadError handlers be > implemented, and (2) RubyGems become a default handler in that > hook. This keeps the impact of RubyGems at an absolute minimum > until the moment it is needed, but users can get to gems without > doing explicit require 'rubygems', -rubygems or RUBYOPT hacks. > > (7) Deprecate require_gem and start using use_gem (or an appropriate > alias). > > * Good things that are necessarily needed for 1.8.4 merging. > > (6) Local / Remote installer unification. > > This is a major area of functionality that really needs to be > addressed. Fixing this will fix a number of inconsistancies with > the way local gems are handled. > > Chad would like to see this before 1.8.4, and I agree; but this > change is big enough that it will probably need some extensive > burn in time, so I am hesitant to insist that it be prior to > 1.8.4. > > (2) gem setup / gem lint > > Excellent ideas. > > * Vague items that need more definition > > (4) Distro compatibility. > > I think the DATADIR issue will go a long way to resolving some of > these issues. But I would like to hear specifics in this area. > Although RubyGems is primarily a *Ruby* packaging system (and so > our priorities are set accordingly), we certainly don't want to > make it any harder for repackagers and specific suggestions are > always welcome. > E -- No-one expects the Solaris POSIX implementation!