Issue #5625 has been updated by Andrew Grimm.


Jon Forums wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Aaron Patterson
>  <tenderlove / ruby-lang.org>wrote:
>  
>  > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 07:36:58AM +0900, Andrew Grimm wrote:
>  > > I was not aiming to protect children from the f-word. My intention was
>  > > to ensure that parents or teachers would be less likely to choose to
>  > > block children's access to Ruby source code. Do you understand the
>  > > difference?
>  >
>  > These words are found in public libraries too, no?
>  >
>  >
>  At first, I thought this was a Joke issue. But it appears not to be.
>  
>  Such fundamental flaws in the claim, argument, and conclusion that I'm
>  surprised this personal taste issue still remains open.
>  
>  If we're going to celebrate Winston Smith's job of Newspeak and move
>  forward on The Great Code Purge, let's not do a half-assed job of it.
>  

Doubleplusgood, comrade!

>  For example, why keep the following words from being on The List and
>  enjoying the party?
>  
>    grep -Prn "(stupid|spermy)" ruby-git
>  
>  How debilitating to one's self-esteem to have to see "stupid" when reading
>  code for the first time when you're already having a difficult time
>  understanding it. And "assert_spermy_equal" must be changed to the more
>  usable and PC "assert_tilde_followed_by_greater_than_math_symbol_equal".
>  

People have in fact been getting rid of the term "spermy". https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/pull/123

>  Maybe we need a poll to discover all words that may be perceived as
>  offensive to anyone, anywhere, at anytime past, present, or future.
>  
>  Next on the cleanup list should be the following project as those heinously
>  naughty words seem to be much more prevalent than the 6,4, and 1 lines
>  found in MRI:
>  
>    C:\temp>grep -Prn "fuck" linux-3.1.1 | wc -l -w
>         27     316
>  
>    C:\temp>grep -Prn "lame" linux-3.1.1 | wc -l -w
>        124    1139
>  
>    C:\temp>grep -Prn "shit" linux-3.1.1 | wc -l -w
>        119     945
>  
>    C:\temp>grep -Prn "stupid" linux-3.1.1 | wc -l -w
>        162    1879
>  
>  with my personal favorite being:
>  
>    linux-3.1.1/lib/vsprintf.c:9: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds
>  fucked it up :-)
>  
>  I personally fail to see how this issue even passes the "notability for a
>  ruby-core issue" test.
>  
>  That said, thanks for the much needed laugh on a Monday morning. If I'm
>  really bored I may swing over the the Linux ML list and show them what I
>  found and see what response I get :P
>  

I had the perception that core Ruby developers were polite and civilized than core Linux developers. If Ruby had the same level of profanity as Linux, and the profanity came from those who originally worked on it rather than the newer members of core, I wouldn't have bothered reporting profanity. If the community is happy with non-discriminatory profanity, I won't complain about it.

I may have still reported discriminatory language, however. Even if I thought it'd most likely get rejected.

Can we get rid of "lame" at least, please?

>  Jon

Andrew
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Bug #5625: Remove profanity and pejoratives
http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/5625

Author: Andrew Grimm
Status: Third Party's Issue
Priority: Normal
Assignee: Eric Hodel
Category: 
Target version: 
ruby -v: ruby 1.8.8dev (2011-05-25) [i386-darwin10.7.0] 


There are currently 6 lines with the f-word, 4 lines with "wtf" that weren't just random combinations of letters, and one line with "bullshit". 

While I personally dislike such profanity, the main benefit from getting rid of it is that it'd mean people of all ages could read Ruby's source code.

There's also three lines where "lame" is used as a pejorative. Using a group of people as a pejorative should be avoided.


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