On Saturday 13 December 2003 03:41 pm, Austin Ziegler wrote: > (I disagree with his meaning for +/-, but...) So what if I want to create > an attribute named "+r" that's a reader/writer (e.g., :+r, not +:+r or > -:+r)? well, i just realized that the whole idea of "crazy" attributes like yours is a mute point, becuase you can't have instance variables of that form. @+r is a syntax error. and by the way, my underscore notation does have a serious shortcomming -- a reader with one trailing undersore and a writter with one leading underscore are not possible. i'll have to think about it some more. T.