------ art_25695_12994268.1222631472348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Trans <transfire / gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sep 25, 1:39 pm, "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Ber... / qwest.com> wrote: > > > > Then there's the other option of removing everything from the standard > > library completely except rubygems, and letting folks install only what > > they want. But, maybe that's another topic. :) > > Probably not quite everything should go. But, given that RubyGems is > now standard, and used by everyone, I'd say that sounds like a damn > good idea. > > The problem with including all these extra libraries is that it > discourages developers from trying, using and building alternatives. > In a way, Ruby reminds me of Windows in this respect, we all know the > effect of it's bundling of IE. Ruby users can not be compared to those who use IE just because it is preinstalled on the system. Also the existence of IE did not stop people make much better browsers. As for IE, the only thing I ever used it for was downloading firefox ;) -- henon ------ art_25695_12994268.1222631472348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir tr"><div class mail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Trans <span dir tr"><<a href ailto:transfire / gmail.com">transfire / gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class mail_quote" style argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <br> On Sep 25, 1:39 pm, "Berger, Daniel" <<a href ailto:Daniel.Ber... / qwest.com">Daniel.Ber... / qwest.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > Then there's the other option of removing everything from the standard<br> > library completely except rubygems, and letting folks install only what<br> > they want. But, maybe that's another topic. :)<br> <br> Probably not quite everything should go. But, given that RubyGems is<br> now standard, and used by everyone, I'd say that sounds like a damn<br> good idea.<br> <br> The problem with including all these extra libraries is that it<br> discourages developers from trying, using and building alternatives.<br> In a way, Ruby reminds me of Windows in this respect, we all know the<br> effect of it's bundling of IE. </blockquote><div><br>Ruby users can not be compared to those who use IE just because it is preinstalled on the system. Also the existence of IE did not stop people make much better browsers. As for IE, the only thing I ever used it for was downloading firefox ;) </div> <div><br></div><div>-- henon</div></div></div> ------ art_25695_12994268.1222631472348--