Neil Stevens schrieb: > Trans wrote: >> On Sep 25, 1:39 pm, "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Ber... / qwest.com> wrote: >>> Then there's the other option of removing everything from the standard >>> library completely except rubygems, and letting folks install only what >>> they want. But, maybe that's another topic. :) >> >> Probably not quite everything should go. But, given that RubyGems is >> now standard, and used by everyone, I'd say that sounds like a damn >> good idea. >> >> The problem with including all these extra libraries is that it >> discourages developers from trying, using and building alternatives. >> In a way, Ruby reminds me of Windows in this respect, we all know the >> effect of it's bundling of IE. I'd much rather see Ruby take the light- >> weight open road. While it may not be quite as convenient to install, >> in the end I think we'd see much higher quality libraries. > > And the counterpoint to that, is if Ruby's standard library is light on > features, it will discourage people from even trying it. If Python and > PHP can do X, Y, Z out of the box, but you have to install other > libraries to get Ruby to do those things, it will be counted as a strike > against Ruby. > In addition it will difficult to use Ruby in some companies for ad hoc tools, because it is usually not allowed to install additional things.