This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig17A96D73FA55DDD6C481F3A4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trans wrote: > On Sep 25, 1:39 pm, "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Ber... / qwest.com> wrote: >> Then there's the other option of removing everything from the standard> library completely except rubygems, and letting folks install only what >> they want. But, maybe that's another topic. :) > > Probably not quite everything should go. But, given that RubyGems is > now standard, and used by everyone, I'd say that sounds like a damn > good idea. > > The problem with including all these extra libraries is that it > discourages developers from trying, using and building alternatives. > In a way, Ruby reminds me of Windows in this respect, we all know the > effect of it's bundling of IE. I'd much rather see Ruby take the light-eight open road. While it may not be quite as convenient to install, > in the end I think we'd see much higher quality libraries. And the counterpoint to that, is if Ruby's standard library is light on features, it will discourage people from even trying it. If Python and PHP can do X, Y, Z out of the box, but you have to install other libraries to get Ruby to do those things, it will be counted as a strike gainst Ruby. -- Neil Stevens - neil / hakubi.us If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots. --------------enig17A96D73FA55DDD6C481F3A4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI39wNf7mnligQOmERAvOdAJ0ZrXkl6DgpLx/oxfY/5PeV/S+L5wCbBGH3 BU3s8ajSnCT0mCq0Nj4WaegðÖZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig17A96D73FA55DDD6C481F3A4--