On Sep 25, 1:39 ¨Βν¬ ΆΒεςηες¬ ΔαξιεμΌΔαξιεμ®Βες®®®ΐρχεστ®γονχςοτεΊ > > Then there's the other option of removing everything from the standard > library completely except rubygems, and letting folks install only what > they want. But, maybe that's another topic. :) Probably not quite everything should go. But, given that RubyGems is now standard, and used by everyone, I'd say that sounds like a damn good idea. The problem with including all these extra libraries is that it discourages developers from trying, using and building alternatives. In a way, Ruby reminds me of Windows in this respect, we all know the effect of it's bundling of IE. I'd much rather see Ruby take the light- weight open road. While it may not be quite as convenient to install, in the end I think we'd see much higher quality libraries. T.