Hi-- my objection to miniunit it mini/spec. a spec library has the potential for being extremely light weight (rspec is over done imho); wrapping a spec interface around a unit test lib is not light weight and is kind of hacky. plus, we should consider the effects of ruby shipping with a standard spec dsl. are we ready to standardize around mini/spec's? i'm not even sure what the syntax is yet since I have found no documentation on it (is there any?). maybe minunit would be better considered once the lib is well documented. T.