Hi all, I would like to propose that the value of RUBY_PLATFORM is standardized across all implementations running on a particular OS + arch. The basic idea is that any Ruby code could examine this value to determine particular needs for that platform. There are two main reasons for this: 1. Simplify the RubySpec cases for any methods that interact with the underlying OS (e.g. chmod) 2. Simplify Ruby code that needs to have conditional behavior based on platform without caring what implementation it runs on Charles Nutter suggested in the Ruby design meeting on June 4/5, that the value of RUBY_PLATFORM should reflect the layer just below Ruby code, which is really the implementation. That layer should be identified by RUBY_ENGINE instead. The value of RUBY_ENGINE has been agreed on but I don't believe it's been implemented anywhere outside of Rubinius. RUBY_ENGINE would be 'ruby' on MatzRuby, 'jruby' on JRuby, 'rbx' on Rubinius, and undefined as yet AFAIK on IronRuby, MacRuby, and MagLev. I strongly suggest that RUBY_ENGINE and *not* RUBY_PLATFORM be used to identify the layer just below Ruby code. Instead, RUBY_PLATFORM should represent the layer below the Ruby implementation. Curious about your thoughts. Can we standardize the value of RUBY_PLATFORM? This is a really big issue for the RubySpecs and also for user code as the number of different implementations proliferate. Cheers, Brian