-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > I'm torn. I'd rather just move on to 1.9 as fast as possible, in which > case I'd rather not see all these new features in 1.8.7. OTOH, if 1.9 > isn't really ready for production yet and won't be for a while, then > these features are better to have than not to have. My point is: is the pain of not having these features in core really bigger than not having them (but available via libs)? I mean - the most used functionality in ruby just got a whole lot bigger. Thats great. But i have to keep my finger from it, because it doesn't fit into the rest of the series - so, why bother? facets at least gives me such functionality in a way that works across ruby1.8. I also see this as a problem of selling ruby to the world: you can't sell without a certain notion of being "stable". As a programmer that has total control over his system, I would always vote for new features. But the reality that our target systems can be managed by others - and they don't see ruby with the eyes of someone that reads this group. I know more than one person that would really like to use ruby in a corporate environment but can't - because they can't sell ruby as stable. Regards, Florian Gilcher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkgGXusACgkQJA/zY0IIRZZhpACgvo9I2F5rVVyeqwfedf2/z0yq c84An0/Fw0DsYUeDI2WKtYyQ7RiDdWc6 =WHXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----