On Nov 15, 11:47 pm, Ryan Davis <ryand-r... / zenspider.com> wrote: > On Nov 14, 2007, at 18:43 , Trans wrote: > > > i'm all for it, but it would be a shame to LOOSE capabilities. > > I entirely disagree. Losing capabilities is exactly what we need right > now. Those capabilities are holding us back. You misunderstand me. I don't mean that the capabilities are included in standard ruby, just that they are still available --i.e. as a separate package. I thought that would have been clear by my response to Eric, who addressed the questions I raised. I'm all for miniunit! (Not for a "minirspec" though, for a number of reasons; and if that's being seriously considered at this time than we need to open up another thread and discuss). T.