On Nov 11, 2007 7:33 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb / cesmail.net> wrote: > Well, I went and read the blog post and he actually had three views, the > third view being represented by Erlang. In fact, the whole post was > mostly about Erlang. :) Yes, he ended up putting Erlang in the mystical > camp. Yes, the third, the "Scandinavian view" doesn't stand in sharp contrast to the other two in that it simply sees objects as being for simulation. Ralph calls it Scandanavian since he sees the Norwegian language Simula (not Simula-67 by the way) as the prototypical language espousing this view. Simula-67 had objects but not subclassing. Alan Kay cited Simula (not Simula-67) as one of the influences on Smalltalk. To net this out, I'd say that both Mystical and Software-Engineering OO languages can accommodate the Scandinavian view. Ralph's characterization of object-oriented view is not that new, it's just that his recent blog article on Erlang is the most easily googlable reference. -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/