Dear Core Colleagues, As a programmer with a Long Memory, does anyone remember the Microsoft Credo for dealing with successful products IT DOES NOT CONTROL: **** Embrace, Extend and Corrupt!!!! My advice is to have NOTHING to do with Microsoft. They have NEVER Helped anyone but themselves. I you think they do not have plan to PRY RUBY Away from Matz, you are naive!!! As you might guess, I do not use windows except the most extreme conditions. Look at what is going on with Linux --- Microsoft is promoting the idea that Linux uses Microsoft IP!!! Ruby is quickly becoming a major language, with the prospect of replacing may scripting languages. Microsoft has a vested interest in slowing and marginalizing any language that is does not control. Sorry for this Long Flame guys, but this is not a minor issue. Right out of the starting gate Microsoft suggests setting an independent laywer run "Standards" Organization for Ruby! PLEASE!!!!!! Charles E. Thornton